Destiny vs. Fate ?
Recently, friends and I joined together and got into a very spirited discussion. It was all about people having clear-cut destinies, or if fate was pre-determined.
At first it seemed a pretty easy question to answer, but the more we talked, the more complicated it got.
It seems to me, we create our own destinies. I don’t know, but there’s something about leaving everything to fate that cripples our journey.
I mean, if we sit back, let fate take our hands and lead us down the road of life, then we have no ownership in what we do with our years, or what we may become.
Destiny, on the other hand, is something that we can make happen. We really can help engineer it. Or at least some of it.
Einstein is considered a genius today, but wasn’t he labeled as being ‘slow’ in school? Or even retarded? What if he simply took someone else’s word and just said the heck with trying anything?
That’s no more than a self-fueling prophesy of fate that says, ‘give it up because you can’t do it, anyway’.
But he didn’t choose to sit back and let his life parade by and look at what happened? He took command of his eventual destiny and achieved more than others thought he was capable of doing – and aren’t we a grateful bunch.
One of our group made the statement that if it were meant to be, that he’d become financially successful (and it’s all relative), then it would turn out that way regardless of anything he did in the meantime. Now, he’s a great guy, the type who’d give you his shirt off his back, but he also tends to be lazy. I think his belief in fate is a wonderful excuse not to work too hard. It’s pretty handy, isn’t it?
Another friend agreed with the fellow above. She saw no purpose in trying to figure out what has already been pre-designed for her.
Now, she’s another pretty terrific person but she can’t stick to anything for very long. I think it is her willingness to believe her cards have already been cut that gives strength to her attitude of ‘what’s the point of messing with things’.
It’s not that I don’t believe in fate, don’t get me wrong. It’s just that I think we have more to say about where we go in life and how we get there.
Maybe it’s just me, but leaving everything up to fate seems like leaving everything up to luck. What I take away from that, is then I might as well go back to bed and just let things happen without any control or say-so.
Just that thought alone is a living nightmare, so I’ll have to pass and say, no thanks. Let other folks call me a nut, a dreamer or whatever suits their fancy. At least I’ll have some input as to where I eventually land – and just that visualiation alone will make me feel as if I’ve lived a life fulfilled.
I’m not absolutely sure what the words fate, destiny or even luck mean. I do know that we can all continue to strive and with that there are great rewards that are of our own doing and that means just about everything.
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March 29th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Bill,
Nice site you have here.
From one of Alex Jeffreys students to another, I believe spending a lot of time discussing Destiny vs. Fate is paralysis by analysis. Like Alex says let’s fail forward to our success.
I hope your business is going well.
Tight lines.
Captain Hall
April 1st, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Hi Bill,
Interesting discussion. So maybe God does know everything that’s going to happen to us at the beginning of our lives. I believe that. But so what. We don’t know it. So yes lets not be lazy. But lets live life to the fullest everyday.
We have to work obviously. So why not find what will make us happy while doing it. Lets evaluate our strengths and then go for it. Let make this an amazing life today, we may not have tomorrow.
Regards,
Rob
April 4th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Hi Captain Hall
Always nice to meet another student of Alex Jeffreys. Hope you enjoyed his course as much as I did? I still have to go over it a second time as I missed some of the modules.
Thanks for stopping by, I will make sure to get on over to your site very shortly
Take Care
Bill:)
April 4th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Hi Bob,
Thanks for stopping by and leaving your comments.
I totally agree with you that we should try to find work that involves doing something we like, even though it’s not always possible.
Yes, life is too short, so we should make the most of it while we can.
Take Care Robert
Bill:)